Sunday, May 24, 2009

The Sad State Of The Auto Industry

Last night Vicki and I watched Who Killed the Electric Car? on DVD. I've wanted to see this ever since Tammy first mentioned it a couple of years ago, and it was every bit as interesting as she'd said it was. Seeing the small, dedicated faction of California EV1 (Electric Vehicle 1) drivers who became fanatical about their former cars once General Motors ended the leases on them and pulled the vehicles back in was just amazing. If you aren't familiar with the story, then picture this: a GM compound in California has several dozen of the cars parked in it, awaiting their final fate. Former lease holders on the cars patrol outside the chain link fence, working shifts in order to keep an eye on the small fleet of EV1s lest GM ship them off to be destroyed (as had happened to a previous set of them). This went on for months, and only ended because the car company did, indeed, load them all up on trucks and transport them to a car-crushing site where they were compressed and shredded (while the protesters were arrested for their attempts to block this from happening).

Anyway, as we were going through the Special Features on the DVD, I started doing a little research on what's available right now. I knew that the Toyota Prius was often mentioned as the best option, as well as being an example of "doing it right" (it was a redesigned hybrid, in which the engineers considered all possible sources of energy rather than just slapping a battery and electric motor into an internal combustion-driven vehicle as others have done). I also knew that Honda had something to offer, and we've been a Honda family for about a decade now. What I found was somewhat shocking (to me, at least), and more than a little depressing.

Honda offers 2 hybrid choices, neither of which are a "plug-in hybrid" (meaning that you can't charge the car's electric motor/battery system by hooking up to an electrical outlet; they're only charged by kinetic energy from braking or by storing energy released by the regular engine) (shock # 1). The 2 models are the Civic Hybrid, and the Insight. The base price on the Civic Hybrid is approximately $10,000 more than the base price for the regular Civic (shock # 2). It looked like the model might have been slightly smaller, in terms of interior space (presumably because the internal combustion engine is still there along with an additional electric motor and more batteries). With either of these cars, you'll get better gas mileage but it's an incremental improvement (optimistically: 40%) rather than the revolutionary one that you'd experience with a pure electric (no gas at all) or plug-in hybrid (only use gas when you exhaust your electric charge). In other words: you have to spend $10K more to get about the same or less interior space, and you'd still be putting a significant amount of gas into it (60% or more of what you'd put into a conventional vehicle).

To see if there was any chance that buying a hybrid would eventually represent anything close to a break-even scenario for us, I asked Vicki what we spend on gas each year. Since she's been self-employed for almost a decade now, we have information like that readily available (for income tax purposes). She quickly discovered that we typically go through around $1100/year in gas purchases. If gas went back up a bit in price anytime soon, we might realistically save $500/year by switching to a hybrid. That meant that we'd have to own the car for 20 years just to break even (shock # 3)! And we typically trade in our vehicles about every 5 to 6 years, making that an unlikely outcome.

So then I went looking to see what governmental incentives exist here in Ontario and/or Canada to encourage us to buy hybrids. I thought that there might be an income tax deduction for it (although I hadn't seen one as I did my taxes each year) but instead there's a provincial sales tax rebate available in Ontario, capped at $2000. (And a sales tax rebate makes more sense than an income tax deduction, now that I think about it!) That was a pleasant surprise, as that would knock the price differential down from $10K to $8K (but still required a 16-year ownership to get to break-even). It certainly doesn't come close to some of the incentives that the Bush administration introduced to get small business to buy gas-guzzling SUVs in the early 90s, but I guess it must be harder to get these things into law when it's only the consumer who stands to benefit from it!

As it stands right now, Vicki and I are discussing whether to make our next car a hybrid. We can certainly afford to, and with self-employment there's even the advantage of being able to "write off" some of the (larger) expense in order to save income tax money. I think we're closer to a decision in that direction than ever before, and that's a good thing for everybody on the planet, I guess. My dream situation for us is: solar panels on the roof of our house and a car that charges up in the garage (from the energy coming off the sun). It sounds like we can't quite get there just yet. But is it 2 years away now, or 10?

I also couldn't help but be struck by the irony of watching that DVD at this point in history, as General Motors faces bankruptcy while Chrysler and Ford struggle to survive as a result of their poor choices over the past ten or twenty years. If GM and their competitors in the U.S. had taken the billions of dollars that they spent on lobbyists to fight against seat belt/airbag/fuel efficiency/anti-pollution devices over the last few decades and actually invested that money into making their cars more future-proof, they'd be thriving industries right now.

If I've misstated anything above, feel free to correct my errors in the Comments section. And if you want to read more, there's lot of information available online. I found the California Cars Initiative site for plug-in vehicles particularly interesting and helpful on the topic of where the PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle) situation currently stands.

7 comments:

Michael Kernahan said...

Personally, I can't wait to own an electric vehicle. There are several new ones coming out soon (but still agonizingly far away). Zenn is working on ZennCity, which should be able to get highway speeds. There no real substantial news behind that one though. Tesla is working on a sedan, which should retail for 50k instead of the 100k of the roadster. The nice thing there is the company has a history behind their product. Search for "Planet Better Place" for an initiative that really seems to have some legs... even if they don't set up a network of battery change stations, pairing up with Nissan should get a vehicle out there. I believe the Nissan Cube will have an EV version eventually.

I'm really hoping that I can get our house in the country "geo-thermally self sustaining" and if solar technology can get a bit better, I would love to go "off grid"

It really pisses me off that GM killed the EV1. I have wanted an electric vehicle for as long as I can remember. Ok, I get the argument that "it's not no emission, we still need to generate the power" - fine, but at least we can produce the power in a few large efficient power plants, hopefully making them greener and greener.

Gaaa. Our addiction to oil makes me sad. We could have gone electric 10 years ago. Interesting what that might have done to American foreign policy...

Michael Kernahan said...

Oh...

and the Civic price difference...

Priceless

Kimota94 aka Matt aka AgileMan said...

Yeah, Zengaku, it's amazing that more people aren't lining up to pay $10K more for a car that can save them several hundred dollars in gas each year... Sometimes it almost seems like the automakers want the hybrid models to fail, but that can't be right... can it??

I forgot to mention that we're leaning more toward a Toyota Prius at the moment, despite having driven Hondas lately. I just like the engine design on the former more.

Anonymous said...

I did a fair bit of research into this last year when I found out how bad the train is as a long-distance commuting option last year.

I ended up getting a smart ForTwo since the hybrid options were just too expensive for me. (Yes, the smart is a bit expensive for what you get, but it's still $10K cheaper than a hybrid Civic, which was about the least expensive option at that time.) Thankfully, I got it just at the tail end of the $2K rebate program with the federal government, so overall, it will probably be worth it.

If we meet up to chat, I can tell you all about what I researched into this.

Also, one might argue that while GM killed the electric car, the market killed GM. Perhaps they got their just desserts.

Anonymous said...

Opening up a can of worms here. I've seen that documentary but it doesn't tell the whole story. Look at the American market. Unlike Canada and Europe they do not like small cars (majority). The big 3 had to build what would sell. Yes the EV1 would sell good in California, but try to push it in texas, or some rural areas. Big issue with full electric then and now is still the batteries. They are not efficient. Not to mention the disposal factor. In your calculations you said you would need to have the car for 16 years to break even. Let me ask you this, have you ever seen a batter system last that long? How long has your advanced lithium ion battery (what will be used in new electric cars) that is in your laptop last more than a couple years of charging cycles before it started to fail. You would undoubtedly need to replace the battery system before that 16 years is up......and at what cost (financially and environmentally) ? The next issue is range....if you live in town and do small commutes then it works, what if you live on a ranch in Montana and have to drive a few hours just to get to where your going ? Right now battery technology just isn't quite there. Hybrids work but really you can do just as well getting a very efficient and small 4 cylinder gas engine. Something like the Smart or Yaris or Honda Fit. They get very similar mileage and have very advanced engine technology and are much cleaner than most people realize. Or what about the new blu diesel engines.....they too are far better than most people realize and have incredible mileage. Electric is not the only way to go nor is it the "one" answer to the issues we see today.

autostry said...

Electric cars are not the only solution to the sorry state of the auto industry.

Vicki said...

I'm tempted, but I could do a lot with 10k...I was never tempted to pay 10k more for an SUV!